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    改革歷程 Excerpt from "Prisoner of the State":
       
1 audio1 6 月 3 日夜,我正同家人在院子裏乘凉,聽到街上有密集的槍聲。一場舉世震驚的悲劇終于未能避免地發生了。。。>> On the night of June 3rd, while sitting in the courtyard with my family, I heard intense gunfire. A tragedy to shock the world had not been averted, and was happening after all... >>
       
2 audio clip 2 以上幾點,就是說明 1987 年中央領導班子改組、耀邦辭職以後,面臨著一個聲勢浩大的反自由化運動。在這種情况下,不反是不可能的。當時有一種很大的力量,要乘反自由化來大肆批判三中全會的路綫,要否定改革開放政策。。。>> Another issue was how to deal with people implicated in all of this. The Anti-Liberalization Campaign was not just a theoretical issue. My biggest headaches came from the issues of whether to punish people, how to reduce the harm done to people, and how to contain the circle of people being harmed... >>
       
3 audio3 但是,我們已經實行了三十多年的社會主義,對一直遵循傳統社會主義原則的中國人民,究竟應該給個什麽說法呢? 一種說法是,中國社會主義搞早了,該退回去,重搞新民主主義;一種說法是,中國未經資本主義發展就搞社會主義,現在應當進行資本主義補課。。。>> Nevertheless, we had practiced socialism for more than thirty years. For those intent on observing orthodox socialist principles, how were we to explain this? One possible explanation was that socialism had been implemented too early and that we needed to retrench and reinitiate democracy... >>
       
4 audio4 也許有人會問,你過去在地方工作,怎麽對經濟改革發生興趣?我認爲中國經濟必須改革,雖然那時我也看過一些東歐經濟改革的書,但出發點不是爲了改革而改革,主要的是我認爲中國的經濟弊端太多,人民付出的代價太大,效益太差。。。>> The reason I had such a deep interest in economic reform and devoted myself to finding ways to undertake this reform was that I was determined to eradicate the malady of China’s economic system at its roots... >>
       
5 audio5 當然將來哪一天也許會出現比議會民主制更好、更高級的政治制度,但那是將來的事情,現在還沒有。。。>> Of course, it is possible that in the future a more advanced political system than parliamentary democracy will emerge. But that is a matter for the future. At present, there is no other...>>
       
6 audio6 現在回想起來,中國實行改革開放實在不容易,阻力很大,顧慮很多,很多無名恐懼,給要做這些事的人帶了很多帽子。。。>> In hindsight, it was not easy for China to carry out the Reform and Open-Door Policy... >>
       
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